A Romney to Vote for in ’08?

Like father like son may be the new motto of the Mitt Romney household.  It appears quite possible that Mitt Romney’s 32 year-old son Josh Romney will run for congress to challenge Democrat incumbent Jim Matheson in Utah’s 2nd congressional district, which includes Salt Lake City and all of eastern and southern Utah.  

I am no expert on Utah politics, but all indications are that Jim Matheson is a fairly popular and successful congressman.  Matheson first won election in 2000, beating Derek Smith by 15% and most recently won re-election with is largest margin yet, a 22%, 59-37 drubbing of LaVar Christienson.

Heading into this election cycle, Democrats most likely felt that this was a safe seat that they should easily hold on to, especially in this election cycle when Republicans are so down.  However, Utah’s 2nd (The Fightin’ 2nd) voted overwhelmingly for President Bush in 2004 and this is what is the cause of worry for Matheson should Josh Romney decide to run.

Mitt Romney is extremely popular in Utah, he won the the Utah primary with 90% of the vote.  Most of the Mormon voters in the state feel that Mitt and his religion were unfairly treated in the primary and would likely feel some sort of vindication being able to vote for a Romney, any Romney, in 2008. 

This election would likely be a blowout for Matheson if Josh does not decide to run.  But if Josh runs and his family (especially his Dad) come to Utah and campaigns on his behalf, Matheson will be sweating it and very worried.  If the national GOP is smart and they are interested in limiting the blood to be shed this November, they need to invest in Josh and get him to run. This is the only way for the GOP to pick up this seat, a seat they likely didn’t think would be possible a year ago.

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19 responses to “A Romney to Vote for in ’08?

  1. Wow, that would be cool! I never met Josh Romney, but I think he would have a good chance against Matheson. Christensen lost because of name recognition. Romney vs. Matheson would be an interesting head-to-head.

  2. Sounds good to me, too.

  3. The GOP has kind of failed as a party, so I’m out on this one.

  4. SLCondensed,

    One who isn’t helping one side or the other will simply be trampled on by whomever wins, depending upon what their likes and dislikes are.

    Our country will either withdraw from Iraq whether or not it is wise decision to do or stay there to help until it is wise to go in an orderly fasion.

    Many taxes will go up if the Democrats win or many taxes will either remain the same or go down if the Republicans win.

    Pro-abortion-on-demand Supreme Court Justices will probably be appointed if the Democrats win or probably not if the Republicans win.

    We as a nation will either take a hard left turn if Obama or CLinton wins or stay as a center-right nation if McCain wins.

    Then the question becomes one of personal choices that may require explainations of honesty about each person’s responsibilities in trying to do what was right for your country. Simply not doing something to help a cause that you consider to be good verses something bad may not alleviate your concience over time.

    Meanwhile, we as a nation only have 9 months gestation period before the day of good or bad delivery happens to America. I don’t see a way back to sanity if Obama wins in a land-slide. I believe both Obama or Clinton will deliver a leftist child for America.

    Keep America on a coarse of center-right politics – not making a sudden, radical turn toward a hard-left course.

    Go McCain-Romney 2008!

    8!

  5. Mike Gravel said it best when he said that Iraq was lost, and the only thing worse than soldiers dying in vain is more soldiers dying in vain. Cheney was right – it is a quagmire and will continue to be so until we leave. One ‘Vietnam’ is enough.

    Distinguishing parties on the basis of taxation is antiquated as Bush Sr. pointed out when he told us to “read his lips – no new taxes.” Taxes will decrease if Republicans win, but mostly for upper class citizens.

    A woman’s body is hers, the choice of an abortion should be up to her. I apologize that women were enfranchised some time ago. It is a loss I feel as well.

    The politics of Obama and Clinton are extremely mainstream, even right of center in most industrialized countries, Europe especially. McCain is an extremely hard-right candidate, and frankly spending 100 years in Iraq seems like overkill.

    Hopefully the inane, uninformed religious zealots, such as yourself, stay home on election day. Identifying yourself as a Mormon makes me cringe personally as I used to identify as such until I realized that many of you are so uneducated on the facts and so repressive of women, not to mention other people’s culture.

  6. Flint

    The biggest problem with running for the GOP nomination in Salt Lake County is that you have to face off against some far right nut. Or, you get so many people running (remember 2002?) that it becomes more of a circus than anything else.

    Romney has the name recognition – and the star power with his father. He could probably count on help from the Utah GOP establishment.

    The real question is whether or not he really wants to do it.

    He could talk to Rob Bishop, the Congressman from the First District. He’s been up there (D.C.) since 2002, and could give him an idea of what it’s like.

    Bishop has a reputation of being fairly low key, and laid back too – so if he’s getting stressed out, then it’s pretty likely Romney would get stressed out as well.

  7. LSCondensed,

    Your reasoning is based upon broad-stroke depictions of complicated problems by simple sloganeering answers sourrounded by generalities.

    The Islamofascist wanted (they STILL do) to make Baghdad the capital of their brand-new caliphate. They have promised to bring Allah’s wrath to every human being who opposes their goals.

    A woman’s body is her own. Her child’s body is NOT her body. Her child’s body is NOT her own body. Science proves this by DNA.

    Distinguishing parties based upon taxation is what the Democrat party uses on a regular basis against Republicans. One President raising taxes once does not a political party make.

    Most Eastern European countries are more like the U.S. than Western Europe, where they are headed toward unfunded promises to their elderly, just like we have done here, liberally. Their socialism has, and will continue to, keep their economies from growing the way they NEED to in order to keep their standard of living up to what they have promised. Europe was slow in world war one and two. They were, and continue to be, slow with dealing with Iraq. They are now slow about defending even Afghanistan.

    What really bothers me about stuck-up liberals such as yourself, is your hate-mongering attitude toward anyone that does not adhere to your deluded way of reasoning.

    “Hopefully the inane, uninformed religious zealots, such as yourself, stay home on election day. Identifying yourself as a Mormon makes me cringe personally as I used to identify as such until I realized that many of you are so uneducated on the facts and so repressive of women, not to mention other people’s culture.”

    The above statement shows your reckless attempt at religious demagoguery through false accusation against me. I have not stated I am a Mormon. I am not. Never have been.

    But, since you mention repression against women, I will tell you that Islamofacsism is exactly what you are referring to.

    To me, YOU are the uncaring, arrogant, biased, prejudiced, unthinking, bigoted hatemonger. I have debated your ilk for many years, and most all of you use the very same arguments, analogies, harsh language, demagoguery, false accusations, false antidotes, false comparisons and truly idiotic, claptrap reasonings to try and make your points.

    I won’t bother with a closed-minded liberal like yourself again unless you repent of your biases and desire for believing falsehoods, instead of wanting to know the truth no matter the cost. You, in my opinion, are a complete waste of my precious time from this point forward.

    McCain-Romney 2008!

  8. Swint

    Mike Gravel said it best when he said that Iraq was lost, and the only thing worse than soldiers dying in vain is more soldiers dying in vain.

    SLCondensed, Have you had your head in the sand for the last year? That is among the most ridiculous statements I have ever heard. Perhaps such a statement would have had some credence a year ago, but not today.

    What you fail to look at is history. In nearly every major war we have fought we went through large stretches where it looked futile and hopeless. The Revolutionary War, The Civil War, WWII, and Vietnam. In each of those we struggled mightly at first and for a while, and with the exception of Vietnam came out ahead. And if one had studied Vietnam War history one would recognize that when the U.S threw in the towel our military was well on its way to victory before the Politicians back home decided the political heat was too much. The only two wars that weren’t dire for the US was WWI and Iraq I. In WWI we came in so late that we pretty well just saved the day, but the Brits and French were in a bad way with the Germans before we got there. In Iraq, we didn’t actually fight off an army of any consequence and it was a cake walk.

    The fact is, that anyone who looked at Iraq objectively today would see an Iraq that is far better off today than it was a year ago. The security situation is far better. Sure, there are still problems and issues, especially politically. But political solutions ALWAYS take longer than military ones. Remember, even the U.S. in our aim for independence and sovereignty took a solid 11 years (from 1776-1787) to just agree on a governing document for our country, let alone installing bureaucratic entities, passing legislation, and really getting the government going. It wasn’t for another two years after the constitution that we even had our first election. So, history is on our side and certainly momentum is on our side.
    People who say, like you, that Iraq is lost are so blinded by their hatred for Bush that they can’t see the realities on the ground there and they refuse to consider that Iraq might indeed have a decent future. At least I can admit that there are both significant successes and reasons for optimism while also acknowledging that there are huge hurdles to jump and things are still fragile. But that doesn’t mean we throw in the towel.

  9. Denny –

    “Your reasoning is based upon broad-stroke depictions of complicated problems by simple sloganeering answers sourrounded by generalities.”

    What’s the heating bill like in the glass house of yours?

    “The Islamofascist wanted (they STILL do) to make Baghdad the capital of their brand-new caliphate. They have promised to bring Allah’s wrath to every human being who opposes their goals.”

    No such thing as Islamo-fascism. Try harder.

    “A woman’s body is her own. Her child’s body is NOT her body. Her child’s body is NOT her own body. Science proves this by DNA.”

    Retarded statement. Abortion should be available while baby is clump of cells.

    “Distinguishing parties based upon taxation is what the Democrat party uses on a regular basis against Republicans. One President raising taxes once does not a political party make.”

    Gave you one instance of many. Get over yourself.

    “What really bothers me about stuck-up liberals such as yourself, is your hate-mongering attitude toward anyone that does not adhere to your deluded way of reasoning.”

    Again, glass house. I don’t appreciate your war-mongering attitude. My deluded reasoning is simply humanist, I apologize.

    “But, since you mention repression against women, I will tell you that Islamofacsism is exactly what you are referring to.”

    And every other religion on the planet. Stop hating Islam because they’re different.

    “To me, YOU are the uncaring, arrogant, biased, prejudiced, unthinking, bigoted hatemonger. I have debated your ilk for many years, and most all of you use the very same arguments, analogies, harsh language, demagoguery, false accusations, false antidotes, false comparisons and truly idiotic, claptrap reasonings to try and make your points.”

    Wow that’s a lot of insults in one paragraph, but I wouldn’t expect anything else from someone as close-minded as yourself.

    “I won’t bother with a closed-minded liberal like yourself again unless you repent of your biases and desire for believing falsehoods, instead of wanting to know the truth no matter the cost. You, in my opinion, are a complete waste of my precious time from this point forward.”

    Gee, that hurts.

  10. Swint –

    I guess my problem is I can’t honestly justify attacking a country for its oil when there are so many worse countries and regimes around the world. The situation in Darfur is much worse than it ever was in Iraq, and we don’t do something about it why?

  11. It’s also quaint that you use a flag as your avatar. How cute! You love America, ahhhhh.

  12. Swint

    I guess my problem is I can’t honestly justify attacking a country for its oil when there are so many worse countries and regimes around the world. The situation in Darfur is much worse than it ever was in Iraq, and we don’t do something about it why

    I understand your logic here, but it has absolutely zero relevance to the situation as it stands now. Sure you may think we should never have gone there in the first place, you may think that our reasons were less than noble, but all of that is irrelevant to the current situation we now face.

    The fact is, is that we are there and we went to war and destroyed their government. As a result, we a responsibility to see such an effort through. You may view our original act as illegal or unjustified, so because of that, we should completely abandon the people there? Basically, you are not dealing with realities of today.

    Additionally don’t you find it at all hypocritical that you seem to be calling for action in Darfur to stem a humanitarin crisis, yet are in support of creating another genocide in Iraq by us leaving before it is stable? Because that is exactly what would happen if we leave too soon, Genocide. The anti-war left are so blinded by their hatred for Bush that they are willing to allow hundreds of thousands of people to be slaughtered just to make a political point. Deal with realities as they are, not as you would like them to be.

  13. Swint,

    I belive you gave an outstanding commentary entry on February 27, 2008 at 7:34 am regarding SLCondensed and his comment about Mike Gravel saying “the only thing worse than soldiers dying in vain is more soldiers dying in vain.”

    Of course, it is hard to penetrate through to get past most liberals’ biases, and even harder to get through to them to try and coax them into overcoming their entrenched, obstinate and obdurate liberal zealotry they have been busily cultivating to promote their pet causes, and the PC memos from their fellow comrads and leaders in the Secular Progressive Movement. Sometimes their conciences have not been seared yet, sometimes they have.

    In all my years debating liberals, only a few handfuls ever cared enough about truth to follow it wherever it took them. Those who do overcome their liberalism usually do it gradually over many years. But, better that someone searches for truth going in the right direction, than staying in error, or going farther into the darkness of evil. They are making their own beds of eternal dwellings.

  14. Swint –

    “Additionally don’t you find it at all hypocritical that you seem to be calling for action in Darfur to stem a humanitarin crisis, yet are in support of creating another genocide in Iraq by us leaving before it is stable? Because that is exactly what would happen if we leave too soon, Genocide. The anti-war left are so blinded by their hatred for Bush that they are willing to allow hundreds of thousands of people to be slaughtered just to make a political point. Deal with realities as they are, not as you would like them to be.”

    You are making sweeping generalizations by saying genocide will happen if we leave. You have no idea what will happen. The pro-war cronies of Bush are so blinded that they will allow hundreds of thousands of soldiers to die to make a political point.

  15. Denny –

    It’s nice to know you can write so much without actually saying anything. I hope you don’t breed.

  16. Really though what are we arguing over? We both have differences in ideology. You think that an unborn baby’s life is precious, I think that a soldier’s life is precious. I don’t think we need to police the world, you’re happy with us being a super power.

    I would be interested to know what makes you identify as a conservative, however. I have become more and more dismayed from what has come out of the Republican Party. I equate Republicanism to religious zealots, Strom Thurmond and co., war-mongering, and enlarged authoritarian government and spying. I know the democrats aren’t blameless, but to me their injustices pale in comparison to those of Republicans.

    I would be interested to know what exactly makes you a conservative.

  17. Swint

    The pro-war cronies of Bush are so blinded that they will allow hundreds of thousands of soldiers to die to make a political point.

    You lost all credibility whatsoever with this one statement. We have been in war in Iraq for what, almost 5 years? (and it really isn’t a war, the war lasted about a month, since has been a peacekeeping and stabilization mission that has been terribly difficult, but I digress). How many soldiers have died? …….oh about 4,000. Total. While the loss of one soldier is tragic and sad, that is a remarkable acheivement. It was not uncommon to lose that many soldiers in a month, if not a day, in nearly every other war we have fought, even as recent as Vietnam. We are not even close to having 10,000 soldiers die, yet you throw out that Bush is allowing hundreds of thousands.

    Of course nothing is certain when envisioning the future or possibility, but when I speak of allowing genocide, or at the least major humanitarian crises, I am making a prediction of what I think will happen should we leave too soon. Do you honestly think that if we leave now all will be well and the radical groups will be content and will allow Iraq to establish a free society? If you do, you are foolish and ignorant. What would be established if we left is another Taliban like government, far worse than the Saddam government we removed.

    Finally, you never answered my question, is it not hypocritical to support military action in Sudan to solve a humanitarian crisis while at the same time we would be causing a major humanitarian crisis verging on genocide in another country?

  18. Swint

    As for what makes me a conservative, I believe in freedom. I too am dismayed in many ways by the GOP. I loathe the religious right. I think there are too many restrictions on freedom being imposed in the name of security (just listen to some of the rhetoric from Chertoff, scary). Those things are the negatives of the GOP. But the negatives of the Dems and the left are scarier. They impose unnecessary economic restrictions that result in the cost of goods to increase and further hampering America’s ability to compete overseas. They support a complete diminishing of moral standards. They want to establish a health care system like UK or Canada, which are absolutely terrible, and they want to tell me how to spend my money and live my life. The rhetoric that comes from Hillary and, especially, Barack sounds a lot like a diplomatic version of Lenin. Their socialist policies are as bad if not worse than the GOP security policies, both scare me to death. I am a capitalist and want to be able to live my life as I choose. I want to be able to go fish without having to spend an arm and a leg to get permission from the government, I want to be able to work without paying 50% of my income to the government all so they can misappropriate and spend the funds without oversight on issues that have hundreds of programs established to solve the issue. I want to be able to invest my social security money so that I can have more to retire on. I want to be able to live my life without the government tracking and knowing my every move (I’m lookin at you, GOP). I don’t claim to be a hard core conservative, I look at myself as pragmatic and realistic. I don’t like to live in a sham world of idealism; a life of “this is how it should be”.

  19. Swint

    By the way, one more thought about your comment, “The pro-war cronies of Bush are so blinded that they will allow hundreds of thousands of soldiers to die to make a political point.”

    What political point are they making? That they will finish the job and America will follow through with it’s endeavors? That they will strive to make sure that they don’t abandon people and allow them to be slaughtered?

    The sad thing is, is if Bush caved to anti-Iraq folks and pulled out our troops and then AQI came in and mass-murdered thousands of Iraqi’s those same people who pushe Bush to leave Iraq would turn around and criticize him for abandoning them and not doing enough to protect them. What a bunch of hypocrits. If there is one thing you can say about Bush it is that he is principled. For good or bad he sticks to his guns and does not waver at every movement of public opinion polls, like some of our previous presidents.

    Bush hasn’t been a perfect President, but he’s been far better than most give him credit for. But, I am saving the “how Bush has done” post for next January when he leaves office.

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